Yan Bibiyan

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  If We Were to Take the Flood Account Literally..

  by Yan Bibiyan in

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  then i cant help but come to the conclusion that everyone who died (like 99.999% of humanity at the time) was doomed from the start.. if god directed noah to build a flotation device with very specific parameters, god must have known exactly how many people, animal species, plant etc, would be in it.. what if people actually listened to noah and thousands upon thousands turned up waiting to enter the ark?

  god must have known that only so many people will listen and obey instructions.. no to mention that noahs message didnt really reach that many people.

  at that time how many people could have heard it?

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  Yan Bibiyan

  Technically, the mosquitos are not taking a life!

  Technically, only because of the size of their reservoir .... notwithstanding malaria, or course...
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  If We Were to Take the Flood Account Literally..

  by Yan Bibiyan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  then i cant help but come to the conclusion that everyone who died (like 99.999% of humanity at the time) was doomed from the start.. if god directed noah to build a flotation device with very specific parameters, god must have known exactly how many people, animal species, plant etc, would be in it.. what if people actually listened to noah and thousands upon thousands turned up waiting to enter the ark?

  god must have known that only so many people will listen and obey instructions.. no to mention that noahs message didnt really reach that many people.

  at that time how many people could have heard it?

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  Yan Bibiyan

  The Genesis account would seem to indicate that salvation was possible for the population of the time if only they would repent, but they took no note. Perhaps God foresaw this.

  ....and YET, made Noah preach?! This seem just to you? Not to me, anyway...

  What else, of what we are made to believe nowadays, is in vain too? Something? Everything?

  The precedent is too powerful to ignore. Unless... the account is not literal
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  If We Were to Take the Flood Account Literally..

  by Yan Bibiyan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  then i cant help but come to the conclusion that everyone who died (like 99.999% of humanity at the time) was doomed from the start.. if god directed noah to build a flotation device with very specific parameters, god must have known exactly how many people, animal species, plant etc, would be in it.. what if people actually listened to noah and thousands upon thousands turned up waiting to enter the ark?

  god must have known that only so many people will listen and obey instructions.. no to mention that noahs message didnt really reach that many people.

  at that time how many people could have heard it?

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  Yan Bibiyan

  Noah was commissioned by God to preach to the human race, warning them of the coming flood and that they were to board the ark if they wanted to survive.

  Sorry, you are missing the point completely.

  NO AMOUNT of preaching would have made that ark bigger. By its very physical limitations, the device was insufficient to house large number of people.

  God KNEW that only Noah and his immediate family will be boarding it, or he would have directed Noah to make it sufficiently big for the "human race"

  Noah's preaching efforts were in vain, which makes the preaching direction of Allmighty very questionable. Don tcha think?
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  If We Were to Take the Flood Account Literally..

  by Yan Bibiyan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  then i cant help but come to the conclusion that everyone who died (like 99.999% of humanity at the time) was doomed from the start.. if god directed noah to build a flotation device with very specific parameters, god must have known exactly how many people, animal species, plant etc, would be in it.. what if people actually listened to noah and thousands upon thousands turned up waiting to enter the ark?

  god must have known that only so many people will listen and obey instructions.. no to mention that noahs message didnt really reach that many people.

  at that time how many people could have heard it?

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  Yan Bibiyan

  The flood account does not have to be literal to be religiously useful

  And how far exactly are you going to get on this basis arguing/enforcing doctrine?
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  If We Were to Take the Flood Account Literally..

  by Yan Bibiyan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  then i cant help but come to the conclusion that everyone who died (like 99.999% of humanity at the time) was doomed from the start.. if god directed noah to build a flotation device with very specific parameters, god must have known exactly how many people, animal species, plant etc, would be in it.. what if people actually listened to noah and thousands upon thousands turned up waiting to enter the ark?

  god must have known that only so many people will listen and obey instructions.. no to mention that noahs message didnt really reach that many people.

  at that time how many people could have heard it?

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  Yan Bibiyan

  Dang, it must have been demotivational for noahs preaching, knowing the ark was to small!

  I never thought of that Bohm. Good catch!
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  If We Were to Take the Flood Account Literally..

  by Yan Bibiyan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  then i cant help but come to the conclusion that everyone who died (like 99.999% of humanity at the time) was doomed from the start.. if god directed noah to build a flotation device with very specific parameters, god must have known exactly how many people, animal species, plant etc, would be in it.. what if people actually listened to noah and thousands upon thousands turned up waiting to enter the ark?

  god must have known that only so many people will listen and obey instructions.. no to mention that noahs message didnt really reach that many people.

  at that time how many people could have heard it?

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  Yan Bibiyan

  Then I can’t help but come to the conclusion that everyone who died (like 99.999% of humanity at the time) was doomed from the start.

  If God directed Noah to build a flotation device with very specific parameters, God must have known EXACTLY how many people, animal species, plant etc, would be in it.

  What if people actually LISTENED to Noah and thousands upon thousands turned up waiting to enter the Ark?

  God MUST HAVE known that only so many people will listen and obey instructions.

  No to mention that Noah’s message didn’t really reach that many people. At that time how many people could have heard it? A City, a County, a Country? What about everyone else not within Noah’s reach? Some ancient Eastern Asian civilization…

  Why didn’t God simply strike dead everyone else, but Noah and his immediate family and not have to do the whole flood charade? God had no problem sending different angels at different occasions to strike any different number of people dead, why not now? This is, I repeat, if the flood account is literal.

  And specifically for JWs (if you take the flood literally – which you do), who survived the flood? Noah’s immediate family. So if the Watchtower is a modern day Ark, be prepared to pick one of the GB’s members, preferably one who is married with children like Brother Lösch ’s for example, and have him and his IMMEDIATE family sail into the New System, while everyone else is left holding the (empty money) bag.

  And, NO, we can’t look at it symbolically to include everyone of Jehovah’s people.

  Remember, the account is literal...
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  makes no sense

  by booby in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the body of elders should always base their.

  decisions on bible principles and written direction.

  from "the faithful and discreet slave.".

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  Yan Bibiyan

  That's solid food, bobby. THat's why it's in the elduhs manual and not for all eyes to see.

  You should "discern" the missing piece that the FDS=GB, and not show your lack of understanding of Jehovah's directions.
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  NEW TITLE of "SHEPHERD the FLOCK of God" (2010 elder manual)

  by Gorbatchov in

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  2. friends

  here is the new title of "shepherd the flock of god":.

  1) disfellowship the flock of god .

  2) lose the flock of god.

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  Yan Bibiyan

  9) @#%$ the Flock of God, Look After Mother

  Sorry if harsh, but that's what it boils down to..
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  this from elder book is just plain wrong

  by booby in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  willingly and unrepentantiy taking blood.if someone willingly takes blood, perhaps because of being under extreme pressure, the committee should obtain the facts and determine the individual's attitude.

  if he is repentant, the committee would provide spiritual assistance in the spirit of galatians 6:1 and jude 22,23. since he is spiritually weak, he would not qualify for special privileges for a period of time, and it may be necessary to remove certain basic privileges.

  depending on the circumstances.

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  "You will be glad to know that spiritual shepherds are endeavoring to render assistance."

  Phew, I was up all night wondering if the spiritual shepherds will muster the strength to endeavor to render assistance!

  Freaking morons...
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  I Finally Get "THE GENERATION"

  by Yan Bibiyan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the words of non else, but jesus himself "...truly i say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur".

  "the generation" has been a subject of doctrinal changes and wide speculations, but the latest explanation handed down by fds, pardon by jehovah, finally makes sense:.

  jesus evidently meant that this generation, in modern days comprised of two overlapping generations (genx and geny), will by no means pass away before the ultimate demise of the wtbs.. for once, mother may have been right.. .

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  Yan Bibiyan

  ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^

  Halloween os on Sunday. Go Trick-or-Treating at the Hall wearing it..